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Douglas C Rapé's avatar

My actual experience with tank and infantry teams is long standing from my days as an Infantry Officer in 8th Marines with the Maj Van Riper at the Regt S-3, then Maj Sutton as BLT 3-1’s S-3 and then BGen Gray as the MAB Cmdr. The culminating exercise was in a Tank and Mech heavy environment after a few years of lead up training and exercises in Norway and Denmark. As the XO and S-3 for BLTs 3/1 and 2/1 with similar lead up training but vastly different environments from Adak Alaska, the dense jungles in Thailand to Korea, open spaces of Australia and mountainous terrain in S Korea.

One of those deployments included RPVs. As the Marine LNO to the Army’s 9th Infantry Div (MTZ) I spent three years deeply involved in the coordination of motorized, armored, aviation and artillery operations with the added benefit of the constant integration of commercial, off the shelf technology like ground and air RPVs, advanced communications, experimental ammunition, advanced logistical concepts and air defense technology. As CO 25th Marines I led two exercises as a Regimental MAGTF Cmdr with attached Tank Company’s at 29 Palms and the standard aviation elements, logistics and a Naval Expeditionary Hospital. Years later I was the PEO-STRI rep at Ft Bliss responsible for simulators, simulations, digitized ranges and training devices for the 1st Armored Division from 2011-2014. During this time we built the largest, most complicated range on earth. The DAGIR, a vast range that allowed for live fire and maneuver of Armor, Mechanized, Artillery (rocket and Tube) attack helicopter and fixed wing air craft in combined arms scenarios. The TACAir was provided by various USAF aircraft and German Tornados out of Alamagordo, NM.

Over that 40 year period it was obvious to me that Combined Arms, when orchestrated properly is far greater than the sum of its component parts. It is an irresistible combat force. Watching lesser forces with poor coordination, poor training or missing pieces makes it easy for the amateur to conclude some things are obsolete. Infantry, Tanks, tube artillery, Combat Engineers are not obsolete.

For those who have been engaged in insurgencies with forces that do not have armor or air or artillery the drawing of the wrong conclusions is possible. Add to that the reading of near peer enemy capabilities ( propaganda) can be equally misleading. While the German V-1 and V-2 rockets were revolutionary in their time, their impact on the outcome of WWII were inconsequential. The most advanced piloted aircraft of the Pacific ( Kamakazi) did not change the outcome.

While some deep thinkers might declare the bayonet obsolete the infantryman knows its value even if he never had to use one.

Revolution is an overused word. Evolution is the winner across history when professionals do the educated analysis. Change is important. The right change being the key. The wrong change is catastrophic.

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Randy Shetter's avatar

I guess to say, it's been at least four years since Marine infantry has trained with tanks? Once the skill is gone, it's hard to replace.

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