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Samuel Whittemore's avatar

Regarding the elimination of Tanks in the USMC, a recent You Tube titled “WARPIGS:Block to Block in Fallujah” highlights the inadequacy of LAVs in MOUT, current IDF Battles highlight the efficacy and necessity for Tanks w Combined Arms in Urban Warfare in an environment rich w drones, etc etc.. One possibility to be explored could be the utility of the US ARMY M10 Booker Combat Vehicle.

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

It has been said repeatedly here that the Marine Corps is not in mandated compliance of congressional statute. Either you are or you are not. Either you follow the process and lawful orders or you don’t. We don’t get to pick and choose that lawful order which we agree with and the ones that we find disagreeable. General Eric Smith has chosen to ignore statute. The incoming SecDef and his appointed SecNav no doubt will review the CMC’s performance and the Marine Corps future, and if necessary, one could hypothesize, that some corrective actions will be taken. It’s currently moot, as change of legal authority is weeks away.

As to the armor necessary for the next and ongoing fights, we know one thing a big gun that can shoot straight and bust up fortified structures is incredibly important. Hue’ and Fallujah stand out, but there are thousands of actions in the past 100 years where tanks helped the infantry carry the day. The discussion of 105mm v 120mm is insightful, and one that ought be happening every day either in the puzzle palace or at Quantico. It was astounding to hear the current CMC, say at a talk at the Brookings Institute last summer, that the Abrams main gun only had range to 4000 meters and therefore was obsolete in todays “stand off” battle spaces. His assumptions apparently are the Marine Corps would never fight in a close quarters environment again. (Hmmm brushfire number XXX, like Somalia where tanks could have been pivotal?) Part of General Smith’s arrogance is the belief that he can tell DOD and therefore the duly elected congress which fights the Marine Corps will show up for and fight. With that mentality he makes the entire Marine Corps obsolete, America may not need a Marine Corps but wants one, with General Smiths approach America may well say, we the people don’t want one. That would be tragic, as we hold the American public’s imagination wild with who we are and what we do and have done for going on 250 years.

We have seen politics seep into the active duty military over the last many years, like some sort of insidious biochemical gas, it has infected the war fighting mentality of all the services and even into the Marine Corps. Nobody asked the writer, but news flash, it is none of our business, policy and politics are for the civilian politicians, regardless of whom becomes the POTUS, one dutifully renders appropriate acknowledgment says “Aye Aye, sir or ‘mam” takes one step to the rear and executes a snappy about face and carries out the orders of day. Review of our 11 General Orders is instructive in the matter, particularly orders 5 and 6. Take them as they are or extrapolate to further the point.

Everyone here at CP from the most senior on down the chain of command (loosely implemented!) want a revitalized Marine Corps MAGTF, it does no good for political discussion to cloud the mission. What’s the mission? Fix it! By any means necessary fix it! Use every ounce of strength and charm and all manner of brain power and wiles, connections, friendships, authority and power to “fix it.” In the 80’s we wanted our MTV, here and now we want our MAGTF back.

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