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Samuel Whittemore's avatar

Apparently the Red Chinese understand the eternal relevance of Amphibious/Expeditionary Warfare!

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Raymond Lee Maloy's avatar

Looks like our vulnerable FD troops will find out what our enemies always knew, but Berger and his toadies forgot…Amphibious Forces with amphibious tracked vehicles, tanks and artillery aren’t extinct. Semper Fi

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Randy Shetter's avatar

Once again, the wrong lessons were learned from the War in Ukraine. It looks like CMC Berger jumped on the anti-armor/tank bandwagon too soon.

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Ray “Skip” Polak's avatar

I left our Corps and managed the facilities and terminal operations at an international airport and then was given my own airport, so I have attended my share of “aircraft mishaps” debriefs. This Korean crash is a retold aviator’s lesson. NO MATTER WHAT IS HAPPENING-SOMEONE HAS TO FLY THE PLANE! All the way to the terminal. I read today that on approach, the radio traffic indicated “bird strike”, and my guess is they both went into bird strike mode and nobody put the wheels down.

That is a tale for all of us, “shooting the alligator closet to our leg” may not be our best COA. Putting unsupplied folks on remote islands maybe a short term solution, but does solve the ultimate issue which was to drain the swamp. We are well past that and now we are in the reconstitution phase, and we need lots of help!

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Ray “Skip” Polak's avatar

Issue: the ships were not built in total secret. The forces destined to be employed were apparently known. Who was asleep at the switch?that is a serious question, and if WE were that person/s, we deserve to be chastised and not our Marines.

Issue: will somebody in congress care enough to foot the bill to make us whole? Ships, airframes, tanks and howitzers and their supporting elements aren’t cheap

Issue: what about our war stocks which seem to materialize in places most of us wouldn’t have known 5 years ago? And are they replaced?

Curious minds, asking for a friend, desire to know.

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cfrog's avatar

"China's massive new amphibious assault ship, the Sichuan is not a theory, a plan, a proposal, or a Power Point presentation. It is a ship, floating in the Hudong Shipyard in Shanghai". See, CP gets it. That ship is not a concept, or a computer rendering. Horsepower you can actually put on track is what counts in racing for the race. Not theoretical horsepower from weird cam shapes that don't exist or engines that don't run. China is in the business of building a small fleet for 2060. How? They are building a big fleet now. Maybe the US will be back in the business of building a big fleet by then.....

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Thomas M. Huber's avatar

Here we go. Sooner or later there will be a Pacific war with amphibious strike and counter-strike, as in the days of Yamamoto and Nimitz. If the US does not reindustrialize it will lose that war. In WWII the US had deep pockets industrially and Japan did not. If the Pacific War were re-fought today, China would have the deep pockets not the US, and China would decisively win.

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