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Greg Johnsen's avatar

I was an M1A1 company commander in Desert Shield/Storm. We were opcon, 8th Marine Regiment and worked along with the Army's Tiger Brigade. I can tell you from personal experience that the 8th Marine regimental commander was very happy to have 14 M1A1 tanks at the pointy end of his spear and then as his regimental reserve, if needed (our flexibility). By the time we got to our final objective in Kuwait, all Iraqi armor and anti-armor capabilities had been cleared from the battlefield by a combination of air, artillery, armor and anti-armor (TOW) assets working together as a coordinated, combined arms team. We were the last ground based heavy anti-armor offense for the 8th Marines in contact. Tanks work in pairs as wing-men to maximize their protection, firepower and target acquisition. Three armored vehicles in a platoon does not seem optimal to me. Four per platoon seems a better choice. The anti-drone/anti-missile defenses now installed on tanks may not survive first contact and can likely be cleared off by enemy artillery or repeated drone attacks and there is no going back to the barn for repair under fire. Superior tactics and mobility are keys to successful employment of armor and its surviveablilty and that depends in large part on the skills and training of the armor company and its crews. You cannot now six years later, just add tanks and send them into harms way with inexperienced crews. The Marine Corps needs to renew its Combined Arms Exercises at 29 Palms if they are not doing so today. Tank crews will need schools and multiple live fire/maneuver training opportunities to be ready for combat. I can't tell you how educating it was for us to get hit by a pair of A4 Skyhawks laying down CS gas just before dawn on the last day of a CAX after no sleep to make me think about what I would do as a tanker if we did not have air superiority over the battlefield. Same can be said for attack by aerial drones.

Bud Meador's avatar

This string on ARMOR is outstanding! CFROG & Doug Rape’, in particular, have some interesting insights worthy of exploring - at least IMHO. Once upon a time at 29 Palms, the Corps established the LAV Test Directorate to do just that: test the LAV to the Nth degree. Out of that came Cadillac-Gage LAV that has served us so well. Moreover, we worked the Marines very hard in field service - lots of it - I was there at the time & observed it from afar. In one PME opportunity for several Field Grade officers - a hands on class with an LAV & its crew - one Major asked the L/Cpl driver “how fast will it go?” The Marine replied: “Sir, the speedometer says 55, but I guarantee you it will do 70!” We had been using Condor Road as a test area - I believed the L/Cpl. My point? Why not repeat that exacting process again at 29 Palms? Why not have a test-competition with the various systems mentioned herein this string, and select the platform that meets our needs, AND, one that has add-on capacity for product improvements over time? We need the armored punch! Let’s do the testing with systems in existence, and get on with rebuilding the MAGTF. Offered as Food For Thought. Semper Fidelis!

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