When General Berger became the Commandant, I first became aware of Marine officers speaking in long, drawn phrases and using terms that meant absolutely nothing. It’s a common dodge today when one has little to say or is avoiding the truth. It goes double for the way they write…The Gazette this month is a timely example. Why no opinion letters?
As a retired MARINE, I don't have much confidence in the Leadership and haven't for some time. Seems like they're all show and no go and the PC part is enough to make you puke!
From the first reading of the FRAGO it was clear that the CMC didn’t write it or if he did, he needed to go back to a basic composition class. The FRAGO was consultants speak and no doubt the consultants on FD2030 had a heavy hand in writing it, they all write the same BS. In my short active duty career including that as an Aide de Camp to a Major General, I never heard the type of double speak Palo de Toro as this current crop of General officers. It is as if McKenzie and Berger were having a contest to say more and mean less, and basically obfuscate if not down right lie in McKenzie’s case. This is what comes with all the “joint” hand holding and advance degrees. Purple Marines. Just look at how clearly General’s Zinni, Krulak and Van Riper write. We get the point ASAP. They are polite, concise and get to the point. Oh and small detail they KNOW what they are talking about. They have walked the walk, long before talking the talk. One of the best moments hearing a General officer speak is when General Wilson came to Camp LeJeune on a swing through as he was getting ready to retire. (Circa June 1979) Anyone in the field house that day who didn’t just sit in absolute thrilling amazement as he spoke plainly, humorously and with commanders intent will never forget it.
Having listened to the Controversy and Clarity podcasts in which company grade and field grade officers are interviewed in long form, and further the NCO’s, SNCO’s and Gunner’s also interviewed, we have to be highly heartened and to cfrog’s point these young Marines are ready to walk point and take on change and to be in charge. One remains in awe of the direct and clear way they speak, now if they had senior leadership that would support them and nurture their inherent and learned capabilities we would be back in business big time. They are out there waiting to run, we need to figure out a way to let the horses loose.
Indeed fingers crossed that someone has taken note that a navy that can’t float is rather not a navy and rather useless. Let’s hope the block spending is for real, now where is that new tank…..
With regards to section 3, on amphibious shipping, I read in USNI that the SECNAV is going to announce a bloc procurement of 3 San Antonio class LPD's and one America class LHA. Keep your fingers crossed!
Rome was not built in a day…..neither will the ships be built quickly. We needed them 4 years ago. SECNAV Del Toro Previews Major Amphibious Warship Buy
JOHN GRADY
APRIL 23, 2024 6:57 PM
USS Fort Lauderdale (LPD-28) during sea trials on Oct. 21, 2021. HII Photo
Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro said he expects “a major announcement” in the next few weeks on a new multi-year procurement agreement to build three San Antonio-class amphibious warships and an America-class big deck amphibious warship at HII’s Ingalls Shipbuilding in Mississippi.
The Navy has been negotiating “as low a price as possible” for the ships that the sea services view as essential to future expeditionary missions, Del Toro said at the Stimson Center on Tuesday. Two years ago the Navy and the Marine Corps agreed on the requirement for 31 LPDs and LHAs in the fleet.
Last year, the Office of the Secretary of Defense ordered a “strategic pause” in amphibious ship procurement to evaluate requirements and cost efficiencies.
Complicating matters on Capitol Hill over the size of the amphibious fleet is the Landing Ship Medium, which the Navy will build for intra-theater use by the Marine Corps. Those ships are not included in the authorized 31 LPDS and LHAs.
In discussing the pending announcement, Del Toro mentioned the Modern Day Marine exposition, which opens April 30 in Washington, as the likely venue.
“We’ll do the same thing with the amphibs” as were done with multi-year procurement contracts to build two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers with HII’s Newport News Shipbuilding to achieve savings in construction and provide stability to the yard’s workforce planning, he added.
Last month, two Republican lawmakers wrote to the Pentagon’s Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office about using a multi-year procurement strategy to buy large amphibious ships and save money.
When asked about the possible three-year delay in delivering the first in a new class of guided-missile frigates, Del Toro cited the “real retention problems” at the Fincantieri Marinette shipyard in Wisconsin. The recruiting and retention of welders has been a major factor slowing work across the board in Navy shipbuilding and repair.
USNI News reported in January that Fincantieri is using money from the Navy to issue bonuses to employees across the blue and white collar workforce to incentivise them to stay at Marinette. ,
One step the Navy has taken to speed up work at the Wisconsin yard is sending a design and digitization team from Naval Sea Systems Command to work with Fincantieri as the yard transitions from building Littoral Class Ships to the frigates.
As he has done before, the secretary called for a National Maritime Strategy to address ongoing problems in public and private shipyards and to resurrect commercial shipbuilding,
When General Berger became the Commandant, I first became aware of Marine officers speaking in long, drawn phrases and using terms that meant absolutely nothing. It’s a common dodge today when one has little to say or is avoiding the truth. It goes double for the way they write…The Gazette this month is a timely example. Why no opinion letters?
As a retired MARINE, I don't have much confidence in the Leadership and haven't for some time. Seems like they're all show and no go and the PC part is enough to make you puke!
From the first reading of the FRAGO it was clear that the CMC didn’t write it or if he did, he needed to go back to a basic composition class. The FRAGO was consultants speak and no doubt the consultants on FD2030 had a heavy hand in writing it, they all write the same BS. In my short active duty career including that as an Aide de Camp to a Major General, I never heard the type of double speak Palo de Toro as this current crop of General officers. It is as if McKenzie and Berger were having a contest to say more and mean less, and basically obfuscate if not down right lie in McKenzie’s case. This is what comes with all the “joint” hand holding and advance degrees. Purple Marines. Just look at how clearly General’s Zinni, Krulak and Van Riper write. We get the point ASAP. They are polite, concise and get to the point. Oh and small detail they KNOW what they are talking about. They have walked the walk, long before talking the talk. One of the best moments hearing a General officer speak is when General Wilson came to Camp LeJeune on a swing through as he was getting ready to retire. (Circa June 1979) Anyone in the field house that day who didn’t just sit in absolute thrilling amazement as he spoke plainly, humorously and with commanders intent will never forget it.
Having listened to the Controversy and Clarity podcasts in which company grade and field grade officers are interviewed in long form, and further the NCO’s, SNCO’s and Gunner’s also interviewed, we have to be highly heartened and to cfrog’s point these young Marines are ready to walk point and take on change and to be in charge. One remains in awe of the direct and clear way they speak, now if they had senior leadership that would support them and nurture their inherent and learned capabilities we would be back in business big time. They are out there waiting to run, we need to figure out a way to let the horses loose.
Indeed fingers crossed that someone has taken note that a navy that can’t float is rather not a navy and rather useless. Let’s hope the block spending is for real, now where is that new tank…..
With regards to section 3, on amphibious shipping, I read in USNI that the SECNAV is going to announce a bloc procurement of 3 San Antonio class LPD's and one America class LHA. Keep your fingers crossed!
We are not fooled by smooth phrases.
MCCP predicted this when this Imbecilic COA was announced. “Exclusive: U.S. pier attacked during construction work off Gaza coast
On Wednesday, terrorists launched mortars at the maritime construction site, damaging several pieces of engineering equipment
Guy Azriel
Diplomatic Correspondent, i24NEWS Hebrew Channel
April 25, 2024 at 02:00 AM
latest revision April 25, 2024 at 08:13 AM”
Rome was not built in a day…..neither will the ships be built quickly. We needed them 4 years ago. SECNAV Del Toro Previews Major Amphibious Warship Buy
JOHN GRADY
APRIL 23, 2024 6:57 PM
USS Fort Lauderdale (LPD-28) during sea trials on Oct. 21, 2021. HII Photo
Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro said he expects “a major announcement” in the next few weeks on a new multi-year procurement agreement to build three San Antonio-class amphibious warships and an America-class big deck amphibious warship at HII’s Ingalls Shipbuilding in Mississippi.
The Navy has been negotiating “as low a price as possible” for the ships that the sea services view as essential to future expeditionary missions, Del Toro said at the Stimson Center on Tuesday. Two years ago the Navy and the Marine Corps agreed on the requirement for 31 LPDs and LHAs in the fleet.
Last year, the Office of the Secretary of Defense ordered a “strategic pause” in amphibious ship procurement to evaluate requirements and cost efficiencies.
Complicating matters on Capitol Hill over the size of the amphibious fleet is the Landing Ship Medium, which the Navy will build for intra-theater use by the Marine Corps. Those ships are not included in the authorized 31 LPDS and LHAs.
In discussing the pending announcement, Del Toro mentioned the Modern Day Marine exposition, which opens April 30 in Washington, as the likely venue.
“We’ll do the same thing with the amphibs” as were done with multi-year procurement contracts to build two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers with HII’s Newport News Shipbuilding to achieve savings in construction and provide stability to the yard’s workforce planning, he added.
Last month, two Republican lawmakers wrote to the Pentagon’s Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office about using a multi-year procurement strategy to buy large amphibious ships and save money.
When asked about the possible three-year delay in delivering the first in a new class of guided-missile frigates, Del Toro cited the “real retention problems” at the Fincantieri Marinette shipyard in Wisconsin. The recruiting and retention of welders has been a major factor slowing work across the board in Navy shipbuilding and repair.
USNI News reported in January that Fincantieri is using money from the Navy to issue bonuses to employees across the blue and white collar workforce to incentivise them to stay at Marinette. ,
One step the Navy has taken to speed up work at the Wisconsin yard is sending a design and digitization team from Naval Sea Systems Command to work with Fincantieri as the yard transitions from building Littoral Class Ships to the frigates.
As he has done before, the secretary called for a National Maritime Strategy to address ongoing problems in public and private shipyards and to resurrect commercial shipbuilding,