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Greg Falzetta's avatar

“…should the people ever lose that conviction - as a result of our failure to meet their high - almost spiritual - standards, the Marine Corps will quickly disappear.”

I posit that because our citizens expect so much of the Marine Corps, that if we fail to live up to their expectations, we will disappear so quickly that the Corps will never be able to recover.

Our prior and our current Commandant are ensuring failure. In the Littoral Regiments concept, and in the SIF concept, and in our Title 10 mission as the nation’s force in readiness. When we fail, Congress will attempt to defund the Corps and roll it and it’s mission into the Army and the Air Force, and we will only have ourselves (collectively as the Corps)to blame.

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the long warred's avatar

No. Not your fault.

No American army or land force has been driven from the field since 1950 including the Marines. were driven from North Korea.

No American army has surrendered since the Philippines in 1942.

We entered WW2 with far less advantages except in Industrial capacity.

We have won again and again to be betrayed at Table by our State Department and to a lesser extent the Politicians.

Yet we have “lost” every war since WW2. In the public’s mind.

Well no, we were betrayed.

Fighting when Betrayed.

That’s the Fundamental Change in Warfare, a military serially betrayed that keeps fighting, the Revolution in Military Affairs being we are openly Cuckolded and we keep fighting for the faithless as if nothing happened.

Well the last 30 years certainly happened to some of us.

Not a Marine, so you can relax on that score, Army.

So this debate and indeed all our debates are sterile and distraction.

If we the military have a problem it manifested at the Kabul gate, when the bomber was identified but no one could give the order to shoot. That FREEZE is epidemic throughout all services, including elite forces. No technology solves the problem of policies of faithlessness towards the military that now have infected we ourselves, we can’t trust even our leadership. We are of course not the problem…we’re just meeting the standard.

Ask the Good Generals about that…

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Randy Shetter's avatar

We are all aware that prior to FD, the Marine Corps was: a medium-weight, general purpose, task organized, combined arms, naval expeditionary force, held in readiness. We are the Nation's 911 Force. The Marine Corps could conduct infantry operations, mechanized operations, air-assault operations, and amphibious assault operations to name just a few of the many operations the Marine Corps can carry out. Each of the Marine divisions could carry out these varied missions. FD has eliminated these varied operations as well as the ability to carry out combined arms expeditionary duties.

However, I came across an article in War on the Rocks (not sure if it has been covered). titled "Expeditionary Advanced Maritime Operations: how the Marine Corps can Avoid Becoming a Second Land Army in the Pacific", by Marine Major Jake Yeager (12/26/19). I would say the article was written prior to the full ramifications of FD were known. Major Yeager envisioned a Marine mission as a littoral strike force operating in the island chains of the Pacific attacking Chinese naval bases and ports. Instead of competing with the Army and their Multi-Domain Task Force, the Marine littoral strike force would operate under the umbrella of the Army's Taske Force. Marines in the Pacific would operate from assault craft to launch raids (from mother ships-L-Class ships) on these Chinese locations. Yeager does not cover how the 1st or 2nd Mar Divs would be organized. However, this concept of a raiding force puts the Marine Corps on the offensive in the Pacific, rather than sitting on some island waiting for a Chinese warship to sail by. This is like the small boat companies of the 90s. Yeager summarizes by stating: "The expeditionary advanced maritime operations concept would be an important step for the Marine Corps-both back to its roots and towards readiness to take the fight to the littoral opponent." I think in theory, one of the regiments or battalions, in the 3rd Div. could be a maritime raiding force, while the rest of the division maintains its traditional role and organization. Instead of island hopping, we would be hopping to attack Chinese bases. As China seeks world wide bases, they would be at the mercy of our maritime strike force. Plus the Marine Corps would be what it has always been: an offensive force. Just a thought.

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Alfred Karam's avatar

If this move by the Chinese doesn’t negate everything Force Design is meant to stop, than I don’t what will.

“Anew Chinese naval base at the Tumen River would offer no-warning access to the deep Pacific and Arctic around the top end of Japan.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/new-naval-base-china-would-allow-quick-breakout/

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the long warred's avatar

So Marines are the center of the universe?

🤭

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Greg Falzetta's avatar

Of course! Marines reject the Copernican theory of the universe! <SARC>.

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