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Neil Schuehle's avatar

While achnowledgement of the designation as a Special Purpose MAGTF for this rotation is certainly laudatory unfortunately I believe this statement at the top is inaccurate: "One US Marine Corps unit has earned a significant honor, designation as a SOC qualified Special Purpose MAGTF."

If not mistaken I believe "SOC" designations ceased to exist for USMC units when MARSOC was created (having been a MEU OPSO, two time CO within MARSOC and still on staff at SOCOM HQ I think I would have seen if the designation came out of retirement).

Separately, as much as I love the bravado of the Corps we sometimes cherry-pick data to engineer arguments to our satisfaction (who doesn't?). The author of "The Inside Story of Why MEU's are Special Operations Capable" has done a bit of this with select quotes from MajGen Myatt.

For one, the Commandant at the time of the creation of SOCOM was Gen P.X. Kelley not Gen Gray. Gen Kelley's notes and recollections were as critical to staying out of SOCOM in the 80s and the standup of MARSOC decades later as Gen Gray's. Both were intererviewed numerous times by the HQMC team at POE-30 between 2002-2005.

Second, as a "shooter" in a Force Platoon in the late 80's early 90's it is probably appropriate to caveat the mission set specifically discussed in the article as "IN-EXTREMIS hostage rescue." With the "in-extremis" designation came numerous restrictions, unique circumstances, and an extraordinary confluence of world events that would have to exist for a Marine Force (typically MSPF) to be given the green light in lieu of the National Mission Force.

Cheers, Neil

Robert Strahan's avatar

The Col at the Warfighting Lab is correct that "optimizing the sensor-to-shooter kill chain" is complex but hasn't that been the eternal case? Systems like AFATDS helped us cannon cockers do just that. It seems to me we have the connectivity and automated systems to solve the sensor to shooter dynamic, just not enough shooters to service the targets. I would ask the Col what specific problem do we have in that arena that the Marine Corps needs to solve and which ones do we need to ask other agencies to solve. Not everything is a Marine Corps problem to solve, and we should focus on those, hence my objection to the anti shipping mission.

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