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With the US entry into WWI in Europe we had an advantage in seeing how the British Army had adjusted from a Colonial Army that had not fought on the continent since Waterloo to a force able to fight with an advanced Army ( the French) against what was the best Army in the world in 1914. These adjustments do not come easy and cost lives at a horrific rate. The British let this knowledge slip away in the interwar period and they did not adapt to their next conflict on the continent which culminated with the defeat at Dunkirk.

Since Vietnam the Corps has not engaged in sustained, high intensity combat over a prolonged period with high casualty rates. This has created a mind set that makes Fd-2030 and EABO seem viable and even decisive. It is neither. It is playing badminton in prep for a football game. We seem to believe that a Cav Screening effort can win the battle. It cannot.

Over my career I encouraged my subordinates to focus on Viking Raids, our Civil War, the Pacific Campaign of WWII and the Soviet German war on the Eastern Front 1941-45. I was always particularly drawn to Charles Martel’s defeat on the highly experienced and mobile Muslim Army with his heavy infantry.

I might note that great basketball, football and other athletes can become reasonably proficient golfers. I have yet to see the reverse. Focus on the big fight. You can retool, organize and train for the lesser. This is further possible because of the Marine competence in task organization. Learn to hunt lions.

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Here We Go Again

Here is another article I caught on RCP Defense about upgrading the US Army Patriot as an integrated system to the MDTF.

“US Army to Add Four New Patriot Missile Battalions, Including Guam Unit – The Defense Post”

https://thedefensepost.com/2025/07/25/us-army-adds-patriot-battalions/

After Desert Shield/Storm, the big change to the Combatant Commander’s deployment plans was not only inclusion of the Patriot Batteries but also ensuring their early arrival in the AOR. Because the Combatant Commanders have recognized the importance of the Patriot (and now the MDTF) the Patriot upgrades have been continuing since 1990 (that is 35 years).

The US Army is now upgrading the MDTF Patriot Missile System with the MIM-104 System to enhance its anti-aircraft, anti-missile and anti-drone capability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-104_Patriot - Very impressive!

I also need to note that during Exercise Talisman Sabre 2025 in Australia, the 3rd MDTF successfully sank a maritime target using an SM-6 missile.

“Army Bullseyes Maritime Target with Portable Launcher - USNI News”

https://news.usni.org/2025/07/17/army-bullseyes-maritime-target-with-sm-6-fired-from-portable-launcher

I have long stated that the US Marine Corps should not be in the anti-ship missile business. The anti-drone business? Yes, as long as it is at the tactical level. Let the Combatant Commanders drive the drone requirements for the Operational and Strategic Levels of War.

The center piece of the MLR was an anti-ship capability that was supposed to be filled by the HIMARS that replaced large numbers of tube artillery. The problem is an HIMARS artillery rocket does not have the range for an anti-ship missile. The insistence of building the MLR anti-ship mission (NMESIS) then leads the Marine Corps leadership into the timely development of an anti-ship capability.

The US now has a Joint Force Doctrine that emphasizes the strategic capabilities of each service. Land based defense against targets at sea has long been an US Army mission. In addition, the MDTS seems to be a considerable number of steps ahead of the Marine Corps. The question in my mind is when the Marines needed tanks, we were to request them from the US Army. If that was a good idea, instead of developing an anti-ship missile why not utilize the Combatant Commanders requested and deployed US Army MDTF?

Now the “rub” between the MDTF and the MLR deployment ideas. The MLR is to be deployed forward as the “Stand-in Force”. (BTW the SIF is a Marine Commandant’s idea, it is not Joint Doctrine.) The MLR was to be forward deployed to cover the maritime WEZ, that mission is normally, generally, most of the time, covered by the US Navy with high tech submarines, radars, SOSS units, P8 Patrol Aircraft, satellite surveillance, etc., etc.. Next question: What does the MLR add to the Navy’s capabilities to control the WEZ?

No way in hell will a smart Combatant Commander (or the US Army) going to risk their MDTF assets forward deployed hiding on a small “littoral” Pacific Island. Initially, I thought the MLR was a good idea as long as its mission was focused on surveillance and reconnaissance. Of course, the question then becomes what can a recon team (or Marine Raider Team) accomplish beyond the surveillance and reconnaissance assets at the disposal of the US Navy? S/F

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