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cfrog's avatar

A few comments on Owen's piece.

1) Great that more light is being shed on this problem...it's terrible.

2) MEPCOM is an issue. In the drive to 202k (the 202k Plus Up), we had a big friend in MEPS. We had Saturday processing, Extended hours on key mission days, adequate staffing, and other factors that helped to mitigate friction in getting applicant's on deck and shippers out the door. I know of a mission making applicant who didn't go on deck at MEPS until 1900. He who was sworn in by the RS CO at 2358 on July 31st, 2008 (that applicant become a Marine and had a successful enlistment, so he wasn't just a hollow contract to stuff the pool). That wouldn't be able to happen today. In today's environment, MEPS is a whole different animal and it is generally more difficult with respect to processing time and support available.

3) One note in response to a comment in Owen's piece: recruiters don't individually judge who is eligible, and they shouldn't. There are standards. There are waivers. Somebody has to go to Parris Island, and they aren't all going to be little Force Marsoc Info Manuever Dan Daly's with a 99 Asvab percentile just waiting on the street for the recruiter.

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Samuel Whittemore's avatar

Recruiters have my ultimate respect, today’s impediments make a super tough job even harder. Hand Salute.

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cfrog's avatar

Return Salute. Semper Fi.

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

Whatever happened to the senior enlisted NCO, at the local RS hanging out at the Courthouse? You can go to the can, or follow the nice man in blue trousers with the red stripe running down the side of the trouser leg. Sorry, had to add some humor to what is a very serious problem. On the macro scale, recruiting in general is an issue, as the pool of able men and women is likely still there, they just don’t want anything to do with a military career short or long. What appealed to many in the past is not there today. Both civilian and military leadership has to change course, time will tell if the message is getting through to Washington and other centers of presumptive power and influence. Owen West and Gary Anderson are important voices. Maybe we could hear more from Owen’s father Bing, and personally I would like to see or hear Jim Webb do something that just scorches the earth. He has it in him!

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Regarding USMC Recruiting…..are potential recruits being entered into this system in order to determine their physical and mental suitability? This is a description of it. IF you visit the website you will note that it has been hit by a cyberattack that has impacted the pharmacies. MHS GENESIS: The Electronic Health Record

MHS GENESIS is the Military Health System's modern electronic health record. When fully deployed, MHS GENESIS will provide a single health record for service members, veterans, and their families. MHS GENESIS:

Enhances health, increases readiness, and improves safety

Focuses on quality, safety, and patient outcomes to help advance enterprise objectives to transform the MHS into a high-reliability organization

Standardizes clinical and business processes across the services and the MHS

Enables beneficiaries to be fully engaged in their health care

Visit our Genesis of MHS GENESIS timeline to learn more about the development of MHS GENESIS and its deployment across the MHS.

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As of February 2024, the Defense Health Agency has deployed MHS GENESIS to 137 parent hospitals and clinics through 23 ‘waves’ and the Click to close

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Madigan Army Medical Center at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA; Naval Hospital Bremerton at Naval Station Bremerton, WA; Naval Health Clinic Oak Harbor, Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA; and the 92nd Medical Group, Fairchild Air Force Base, WA.Initial Operating Capability. More than 190,000 DHA providers are using MHS GENESIS to provide health care to more than 9.6 million potential beneficiaries.

The deployment is now 99% complete.

Visit our Genesis of MHS GENESIS timeline to learn more about the deployment of MHS GENESIS across the MHS.

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cfrog's avatar

I'll keep it brief. The answer is yes, the rollout of Genesis included requiring that clearing an applicant to go to MEPS for contracting meant being cleared for entry into Genesis where the service medical record is initially generated. The background process required for an applicant's records to clear through Genesis meant a dramatic increase in the minimum time to approve the applicant to head to MEPS and subsequently a significant increase in the contact-to-contract timeline. The rule of thumb now is to expect 45-60 days before a fully qual'd applicant is cleared to head to MEPS for initial processing and contracting (swearing in). That's true for a clean applicant with clean medical history. This means that any shortfall in contracting cannot be made up by same-month prospecting....basically there is no direct market (though, I have to say living in the direct market is the worst way to make mission, but at least it is making mission).

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